{"id":4402,"date":"2010-03-08T00:00:00","date_gmt":"1970-01-01T00:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/lesliedinaberg.com\/wordpress\/?p=4402"},"modified":"2014-02-17T22:10:46","modified_gmt":"2014-02-18T06:10:46","slug":"noozhawk-talks-leslie-dinaberg-sits-down-with-colette-hadley","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lesliedinaberg.com\/wordpress\/?p=4402","title":{"rendered":"Noozhawk Talks: Leslie Dinaberg Sits Down With Colette Hadley"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Colette Hadley\u2019s Commitment to Education Is All About Opportunity<\/strong><\/p>\n<div>For Scholarship Foundation of Santa Barbara director, the future begins now for the students she aims to help<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_6180\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"https:\/\/lesliedinaberg.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/03\/540-Hadley.jpg\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-6180\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-6180\" alt=\"Colette Hadley, Noozhawk photo\" src=\"https:\/\/lesliedinaberg.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/03\/540-Hadley-300x200.jpg\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\" srcset=\"https:\/\/lesliedinaberg.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/03\/540-Hadley-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/lesliedinaberg.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/03\/540-Hadley.jpg 540w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-6180\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Colette Hadley, Noozhawk photo<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"deckhead\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: left;\">The\u00a0<a title=\"Scholarship Foundation of Santa Barbara\u2019s\" href=\"http:\/\/www.sbscholarship.org\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Scholarship Foundation of Santa Barbara\u2019s<\/a>\u00a0services are needed now more than ever as the rising costs of college mean more and more families are looking for financial aid to help afford the expense.<\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: left;\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: left;\"><a title=\"Noozhawk\u2019s\" href=\"http:\/\/www.noozhawk.com\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Noozhawk\u2019s<\/a>\u00a0Leslie Dinaberg caught up with executive director Colette Hadley to talk about her life, work and what it\u2019s like to help students and their families pursue their educational dreams.<\/div>\n<p><strong>Leslie Dinaberg:<\/strong> How long have you been at the Scholarship<br \/>\nFoundation of Santa Barbara?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Colette Hadley:<\/strong> Seventeen years. I started here when I was 30<br \/>\nand I&#8217;m 47. The foundation and I, funnily enough, were born on the same day. May<br \/>\n29, 1962 was the first meeting of the scholarship foundation and that&#8217;s the same day<br \/>\nI was born.<\/p>\n<p><strong>LD:<\/strong> Fate.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CH:<\/strong> I like to think of that a little bit as the kinship between us.<br \/>\nI&#8217;ve been here a long time. I started out doing, interestingly enough, some event<br \/>\nmanagement and then within a year moved into program management. We were<br \/>\njust a tiny group, there were like four employees. We&#8217;re still small but we were<br \/>\nreally small.<\/p>\n<p><strong>LD:<\/strong> Did you come to Santa Barbara to do that or were you<br \/>\nalready here?<\/p>\n<p><strong>CH:<\/strong> I&#8217;m a pretty planned person in life. &#8230; I actually had worked<br \/>\nat the <a title=\"UC Irvine\" href=\"http:\/\/www.uci.edu\/\" target=\"_blank\">University\u00a0of California at the Irvine<\/a> campus and then a little bit at the <a title=\"UC Los&lt;br \/&gt; Angeles\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ucla.edu\/\" target=\"_blank\">UCLA<\/a> campus in\u00a0student affairs, and I was just kind of looking for a change. &#8230; I really liked higher<br \/>\neducation, working with students, but I really wanted to see more of the results of<br \/>\nwhat I was doing. I wanted to be a little more hands on. I loved my work there but &#8230;<br \/>\nI felt like I was like kind of a cog in a big university, which I was, so I wanted to do<br \/>\nsomething smaller. I specifically said I&#8217;m going to look for an educationally related<br \/>\njob, most likely a nonprofit.<\/p>\n<p>&#8230; I had a friend from college living in Santa Barbara and we had kept in close touch.<br \/>\nShe said, &#8220;why don&#8217;t you come check out Santa Barbara and stay with me for a<br \/>\ncouple of weeks.&#8221; This was in 1992 and I said &#8220;there are no jobs in Santa Barbara,<br \/>\neverybody knows there are no jobs in Santa Barbara, and so I&#8217;ll just come and sit on<br \/>\na beach.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><strong>LD:<\/strong> And you found the job through a tiny newspaper ad.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CH:<\/strong> I sent them my resume and they called me. &#8230; I had this<br \/>\ninterview scheduled at the University\u00a0Club and they really hadn&#8217;t told me much about it. So I go into this little room at\u00a0the University Club and there are eight people in this room and I&#8217;m thinking I was\u00a0just going for a one-on-one interview. I go in, I just shook the sand out of my sandals\u00a0and pulled on a skirt and put on a jacket &#8230; and I walked in this room and it was full<br \/>\nof very warm, smiling people. &#8230; I&#8217;m looking at people who are just big circles of<br \/>\nwarmth. &#8230; So I sit down and they&#8217;re like we&#8217;re so glad to meet you and we&#8217;re so<br \/>\nexcited and tell us about this and tell us about that and we just sat and had a<br \/>\nconversation and I just instantly liked them.<\/p>\n<p>&#8230; I had been home five minutes and the phone rang and it&#8217;s Billie Mans (former<br \/>\nexecutive director) and she goes, &#8220;we loved you!&#8221; Nobody does that. They say, &#8220;Oh<br \/>\nwe&#8217;d like you to come back for a second interview.&#8221; She&#8217;s like &#8220;we loved you come<br \/>\nback again. We want you to meet some more board members.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>So I go back again. I&#8217;m thinking geez these people really care. They have all these<br \/>\nboard members and the staff and they really care.<\/p>\n<p><strong>LD:<\/strong> What a change from a huge university. Not that they don&#8217;t<br \/>\ncare, but there are just so many layers.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CH:<\/strong> Basically I went back and they offered me a job. &#8230; I had to<br \/>\ndecide whether I wanted to take a pretty significant pay cut. But the gut was I would<br \/>\nenjoy working with these people. We had nothing written down or anything but<br \/>\nthey said I&#8217;m telling you within three years you&#8217;ll be back to what you were making<br \/>\nand beyond that. And we promise that if you decide you want to be here and you&#8217;re<br \/>\ncommitted and you do this job that we will be here for you and I just trusted them<br \/>\nand they did that.<\/p>\n<p><strong>LD:<\/strong> That&#8217;s great.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CH: <\/strong> Good people. So I had good mentoring with Billie and we<br \/>\nkind of grew along together and good mentoring with the board and you know since<br \/>\nthat time we&#8217;ve been that way, 17 years later, and that&#8217;s why I&#8217;m still here.<\/p>\n<p><strong>LD:<\/strong> When did you become the executive director?<\/p>\n<p><strong>CH:<\/strong> Four years ago. I worked as the program director for quite a<br \/>\nlong time and then as the associate director. &#8230; I&#8217;m very fortunate. I still think I have<br \/>\nprobably the best job in town. Maybe me or <a title=\"Ron Gallo\" href=\"http:\/\/www.noozhawk.com\/article\/noozhawk_talks_ron_gallo_santa_barbara_foundation\" target=\"_blank\">Ron Gallo<\/a><br \/>\n(executive director of the <a title=\"Santa Barbara Foundation\" href=\"https:\/\/www.sbfoundation.org\/\" target=\"_blank\">Santa Barbara Foundation<\/a>), I&#8217;m not sure. Maybe me.<br \/>\n(Laughs)<\/p>\n<p><strong>LD:<\/strong> There are a lot of similarities actually.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CH:<\/strong> Yeah. He&#8217;s got a great board and we actually share some<br \/>\npeople on the boards, so for me that&#8217;s the fun though. It&#8217;s great students and parents<br \/>\nand great board members and great staff but also really we have great donors. &#8230; It&#8217;s<br \/>\nsomething that keeps me very connected to my work.<\/p>\n<p><strong>LD:<\/strong> That&#8217;s great. Are most of the big supporters people who were<br \/>\nscholarship students at one point?<\/p>\n<p><strong>CH:<\/strong> Excellent question. I would say that at least half of them.<br \/>\nThey all have a personal story &#8230; Some people have also said the opposite: they grew<br \/>\nup with a supportive family environment and they had the resources to send me to<br \/>\ncollege and they went to a phenomenal university and have then gone on to achieve<br \/>\nquite a bit in their life and then said you know what, I am really aware that there are<br \/>\npeople out there that did not have that and it&#8217;s not an equal playing field. And so it&#8217;s<br \/>\nmy obligation to help, that&#8217;s an attitude we run into, besides the people that say oh<br \/>\nyes, I couldn&#8217;t have gone if I didn&#8217;t have a scholarship.<\/p>\n<p>&#8230; The stories are amazing and some of them you don&#8217;t know until years go by, and<br \/>\nyou don&#8217;t know. So yes, that&#8217;s part of it too. I think it doesn&#8217;t matter what nonprofit<br \/>\nyou work with or what you do. It&#8217;s about the stories. It&#8217;s about that. You probably<br \/>\nfind that in your work too.<\/p>\n<p><strong>LD:<\/strong> Oh yes, it&#8217;s about the stories for sure.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CH:<\/strong> It&#8217;s the same thing with the parents of students, it&#8217;s their<br \/>\nstories, that&#8217;s really what it&#8217;s about is that connection. That&#8217;s why introducing<br \/>\nstudents or having them speak at something or tell their story, we can all find some<br \/>\nconnection there.<\/p>\n<p><strong>LD:<\/strong> So is it tougher to get into college now?<\/p>\n<p><strong>CH:<\/strong> I will give you the stats I know. Basically the peak of the baby<br \/>\nboomlet, the kids of the baby boomers, was really this last year, so in sheer numbers<br \/>\ncompeting for seats, the peak was last year. It&#8217;s still high right now but it will start to<br \/>\ndiminish. &#8230; Santa Barbara County, especially in the south county, our population of<br \/>\nhigh school seniors will start to slowly go down and so that&#8217;s happening all over the<br \/>\ncountry a little bit. So they will actually have a little less competition for seats in the<br \/>\nnext couple of years.<\/p>\n<p>However, what has offset that because we have such a bad budget situation is that<br \/>\nlast year all of the UC&#8217;s and Cal States cut off spring transfers from community<br \/>\ncolleges and they are all ratcheting back. Not only have they raised the fees almost<br \/>\n35 percent in 12 months but they also are ratcheting back the sizes of their classes<br \/>\nslowly. In terms of their enrollment management techniques, they are going to start<br \/>\nusing wait lists this year at the UC&#8217;s, which is very tricky and very stressful. But yes<br \/>\nit&#8217;s actually for different reasons going to be just as challenging for the next couple<br \/>\nof years, but for different reasons.<\/p>\n<p><strong>LD:<\/strong> When you say ratcheting back the size of their classes do you<br \/>\nmean the freshman class?<\/p>\n<p><strong>CH:<\/strong> Yes, the number that will go through. That&#8217;s the UC&#8217;s and Cal<br \/>\nStates. Private and independent institutions are actually right now-not the<br \/>\nStanfords and the Ivies but the others-are actually a tiny bit more expansive right<br \/>\nnow because there are students in the past year and a half particularly that have<br \/>\nturned away from those institutions, not because they don&#8217;t love them, but because<br \/>\nof the high cost &#8230; Community colleges of course are being hit by a tsunami of<br \/>\nstudents and all of them are cutting their sections. &#8230; With our student scholarship<br \/>\nrecipients the program staff will tell you the number of students begging for<br \/>\nforbearance because they can&#8217;t get 12 units, they&#8217;re lucky if they get 11. They&#8217;re not<br \/>\ntrying to get in, people think oh they don&#8217;t want to get an 8 o&#8217;clock class, they&#8217;re<br \/>\ntrying to get anything. Any class.<\/p>\n<p>&#8230; Even a few years ago they had a little more flexibility but now with calculus and<br \/>\nall of these things boom, you don&#8217;t get into it in the fall, you&#8217;re going to have to wait<br \/>\na year. So that&#8217;s what&#8217;s affecting the students and it&#8217;s been dramatic. It has not been<br \/>\na gradual change. It&#8217;s been huge this year and it&#8217;s going to get worse next year.<\/p>\n<p>So getting in, still challenging. Staying in, getting what you need is probably the most<br \/>\nchallenging that it&#8217;s ever been.<\/p>\n<p><strong>LD:<\/strong> That&#8217;s too bad.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CH:<\/strong> Yes, it is. When I hear the governor say and I believe this, he<br \/>\nactually came in touting education as his number one issue. I have mixed feelings<br \/>\nabout him, as a lot of people do, but I actually believe personally it is a priority of his<br \/>\nbut I just think that it&#8217;s just not the way our state is working right now. It&#8217;s just not<br \/>\nthe way it is. We have a legislature that can&#8217;t agree on anything and he doesn&#8217;t really<br \/>\nhave a lot of power with that. They are not putting education first.<\/p>\n<p><strong>LD:<\/strong> It&#8217;s so frustrating.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CH:<\/strong> It is. I think everybody is tired of that with our U.S. Congress<br \/>\nas well. &#8230; When I talk to colleagues who are running programs in Ohio and Virginia<br \/>\nand other places, everybody&#8217;s got something going on that&#8217;s affecting them.<\/p>\n<p><strong>LD:<\/strong> It&#8217;s nice to have those people to bounce ideas around with.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CH:<\/strong> &#8230; The beauty of being in an educational nonprofit is<br \/>\nwhatever your politics are, and we have a large board, 40 people on our board, so I<br \/>\nspend a lot of time working with our board. But it doesn&#8217;t matter someone&#8217;s political<br \/>\nbackground. You can have people on your board that are on different ends of the<br \/>\npolitical spectrum, completely different ends, but providing educational<br \/>\nopportunities is a place where a lot of people come together. It&#8217;s a very cohesive<br \/>\nthing. Something that people rally around is helping students. Which is very much,<br \/>\nagain, a positive feature of being here. I enjoy talking to those people of all different<br \/>\nopinions and backgrounds. I think that as tough as it is sometimes-and the last<br \/>\nyear was tough, really tough-it&#8217;s pretty much relentlessly positive work.<\/p>\n<p><strong>LD:<\/strong> That&#8217;s really nice and probably why you&#8217;ve been able to be<br \/>\nhere for the length of time that you have been.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CH:<\/strong> I totally agree. It&#8217;s must more challenging to be someplace<br \/>\nlike our colleagues next door, we sublease part of our building to the Arthritis<br \/>\nFoundation. A great cause and yet it&#8217;s a longer-term goal. A scholarship, here&#8217;s a kid<br \/>\nyou give them a scholarship they tell you what happened and they got their degree.<\/p>\n<p><strong>LD:<\/strong> That&#8217;s nice. So what else do you do when you&#8217;re not<br \/>\nworking?<\/p>\n<p><strong>CH:<\/strong> I&#8217;m big with books, so books, films; current events are big,<br \/>\nbig, big for me. I read a lot of newspapers; &#8230; my family and my friends are a big part<br \/>\nof my life.<\/p>\n<p>&#8230; I love talking. I don&#8217;t love arguing about current events but I like just talking about<br \/>\nwhat&#8217;s happening with people and I like to be around people that are engaged and if<br \/>\nthey say &#8220;I don&#8217;t read a newspaper&#8221; they might be a really great person, but they&#8217;re<br \/>\nprobably not going to be in my close, everyday network. I love the beach and I really<br \/>\nlove California. I just like the different parts of the state. I like the mountains, I love<br \/>\nthe beach &#8230; When you take a walk down at Ledbetter beach, there is no place you<br \/>\ncan turn, 360 degrees, that you don&#8217;t see something of great beauty.<\/p>\n<p><strong>LD:<\/strong> That&#8217;s okay. If you could be invisible anywhere, where would<br \/>\nyou go and what would you do?<\/p>\n<p><strong>CH:<\/strong> Oval office probably in the White House &#8230; I just think of that<br \/>\nprocess of what goes on in that office and how decisions are made. &#8230; I can&#8217;t imagine<br \/>\nthe weight that person feels on their shoulders. There are days I feel it here and I&#8217;m<br \/>\nresponsible for just this agency and the employees and students we&#8217;re responsible<br \/>\nto and the donors we&#8217;re responsible and then I think oh my God, can you imagine<br \/>\nbeing the president of the United States or somebody who really has<br \/>\nresponsibilities, not just somebody running a little agency.<\/p>\n<p>&#8230; Or maybe the International Space Station, I would pick that one too. Of course I<br \/>\nwouldn&#8217;t have to be invisible just to see what&#8217;s happening.<\/p>\n<h3><strong>Vital Stats: Colette Hadley<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p><strong>Born:<\/strong> May 29, 1962, in Spokane Washington<\/p>\n<p><strong>Family:<\/strong> &#8220;I have six brothers and sisters and then a stepbrother<br \/>\nand a stepsister, so 9 kids in my family. They&#8217;re my favorite people. My mom died in<br \/>\n1980 and my dad is 83 and he is remarried to my step mom, she&#8217;s great.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Civic Involvement:<\/strong> Planned Parenthood, CASA, Big Brothers, Big<br \/>\nSisters and Cal Soap.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Professional Accomplishments:<\/strong> &#8220;As executive director of the<br \/>\nScholarship Foundation of Santa Barbara I&#8217;m just doing my best to run the agency as<br \/>\nbest I can and to do it with integrity and efficiency. And to try and take good care of<br \/>\nour clients and our donors and our staff and our board and try and juggle all of those<br \/>\nat the same time.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Best Book You&#8217;ve Read Recently:<\/strong> &#8220;<a title=\"Island: The Complete&lt;br \/&gt; Stories\" href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Island-Complete-Stories-Alistair-&lt;br \/&gt; MacLeod\/dp\/0393341186\/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1320713&lt;br \/&gt; 053&amp;sr=1-1\" target=\"_blank\">Island: The Complete Stories&#8221;<\/a> by Alistair<br \/>\nMacLeod.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Favorite Local Spot:<\/strong> Ledbetter Beach, Arigato, Arnoldi&#8217;s or<br \/>\nShalhoob&#8217;s.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Little-Known Fact:<\/strong> &#8220;I would secretly like to have a radio show.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h6>Originally published in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.noozhawk.com\/\">Noozhawk<\/a>\u00a0on March 8, 2010. 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