{"id":4398,"date":"2009-03-30T00:00:00","date_gmt":"1970-01-01T00:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/lesliedinaberg.com\/wordpress\/?p=4398"},"modified":"2013-12-07T17:47:15","modified_gmt":"2013-12-08T01:47:15","slug":"noozhawk-talks-leslie-dinaberg-sits-down-with-hap-freund","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lesliedinaberg.com\/wordpress\/?p=4398","title":{"rendered":"Noozhawk Talks: Leslie Dinaberg sits down with Hap Freund"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_5902\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/lesliedinaberg.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/03\/032909-Hap_Freund-540.jpg\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-5902\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-5902\" alt=\"(Michelle J. Wong \/ Noozhawk photo)\" src=\"https:\/\/lesliedinaberg.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/03\/032909-Hap_Freund-540-300x209.jpg\" width=\"300\" height=\"209\" srcset=\"https:\/\/lesliedinaberg.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/03\/032909-Hap_Freund-540-300x209.jpg 300w, https:\/\/lesliedinaberg.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/03\/032909-Hap_Freund-540.jpg 540w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-5902\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">(Michelle J. Wong \/ Noozhawk photo)<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Certainly the hardest working man in (local public access) television, the<br \/>\nSanta Barbara Channel&#8217;s executive director <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sbvillage.org\/hap_freund_bio.html\" target=\"_blank\">Hap Freund<\/a> took some time<br \/>\nout of his busy day to talk media matters with Noozhawk&#8217;s Leslie<br \/>\nDinaberg.<\/p>\n<p>Leslie Dinaberg: How did you get started in public television?<\/p>\n<p>Hap Freund: I moved to Hawaii in 1980, with my wife who had a clerkship in the Hawaii<br \/>\nSupreme Court &#8230; I got a job with the mayor&#8217;s office. I was in the office of human<br \/>\nresources and I was in charge of special projects in social services but I wasn&#8217;t supposed<br \/>\nto spend any money and all I had to do was monitor a bunch of federal grants and it was<br \/>\ntotally boring. &#8230; Somehow it came to me that there was this access channel that if you<br \/>\nproduced television for it you could get your programs on TV.<\/p>\n<p>&#8230;. I got together with some friends of mine and we did a documentary on homeless in<br \/>\nHawaii. And after I made that documentary I then went to the Junior League and I got a<br \/>\n$50,000 grant to produce TV programs, to do the video training and to produce local<br \/>\ndocumentaries on social issues. &#8230; Over the course of about two years we did 18 half<br \/>\nhour documentaries. So I did that through my job working for the mayor&#8217;s<br \/>\noffice.<\/p>\n<p>&#8230;It was kind of a back door. I had never done television. I had been a lawyer, and a<br \/>\ncommunity organizer and done a lot of work in social issues, but because the mayor<br \/>\ndidn&#8217;t want to spent any money. &#8230;I could do anything I wanted pretty much in social<br \/>\nservices as long as I didn&#8217;t spend money. So I did this and didn&#8217;t cost her a cent.<\/p>\n<p>So that&#8217;s how I got into it. Then I moved to Ashland, Oregon when our son was about a<br \/>\nyear and a half and I did independent work. I did a documentary for NOVA that took a<br \/>\nyear. I wrote an article for Sports Illustrated on a wildlife forensic lab in Ashland &#8230; it<br \/>\nwas in the swimsuit issue, so the joke was it was in the most widely read <a title=\"Sports Illustrated \" href=\"http:\/\/sportsillustrated.cnn.com\/\" target=\"_blank\"><em>Sports<\/em><\/a><br \/>\n<a title=\"Sports Illustrated \" href=\"http:\/\/sportsillustrated.cnn.com\/\" target=\"_blank\"><em> Illustrated<\/em> <\/a>of the year, except nobody read my article. (Laughs) But part of that, I took<br \/>\nthat article and I wrote a grant to do a film on wildlife forensics.<\/p>\n<p>LD: And you were in Seattle before you came to the Santa Channels when it switched<br \/>\nfrom belonging to Cox to being a nonprofit.<\/p>\n<p>HF: Yes. We became a nonprofit in January of 2003 and I started up a couple of months<br \/>\nbefore that to set up the bylaws and the policies and personnel plan.<\/p>\n<p>&#8230; One of the things I really like is what&#8217;s happened in video is it&#8217;s democratized, even<br \/>\nmore so now because you can shoot a video with your phone. It&#8217;s been an incredible<br \/>\nleveler and it&#8217;s just democratized so much, and You Tube helps too. You can get the<br \/>\nword out. What we do is so you don&#8217;t have to have a network to get the word out. And<br \/>\nthat&#8217;s one of the things I like about this (public television) is it&#8217;s a vehicle for people to<br \/>\nhave their opinions. &#8230; I think that&#8217;s the cornerstone of democracy is having diverse<br \/>\nopinions and people hearing things that are uncomfortable.<\/p>\n<p>&#8230; I always think we feel a real niche with cable. Channel 17, that&#8217;s the public access<br \/>\npart, with Channel 21 &#8230; I have a very broad definition of education, so I look at anything<br \/>\nthat&#8217;s culture or arts also as educational.<\/p>\n<p>LD: You are also doing things with nonprofits.<\/p>\n<p>HF: Now we have a grant from Orfalea Foundation to do short spotlights on nonprofits<br \/>\nthat are out in the field and we&#8217;ve got a grant from the Santa Barbara Foundation where<br \/>\nwe&#8217;re trying to focus a lot on doing production work for nonprofits. I think if there&#8217;s a<br \/>\ndirection we want to go in, we really see ourselves as being the media arm for nonprofits.<\/p>\n<p>LD: That&#8217;s great. Especially because I know everybody is struggling with money to<br \/>\nspend on things like that.<\/p>\n<p>HF: Yes and we&#8217;re inexpensive and we give them something they can multipurpose<br \/>\nbecause it isn&#8217;t just going on TV, we have a video-sharing site called SBChannels.net,<br \/>\nand we have all these videos. &#8230; They can link to it, they can send emails out.<\/p>\n<p>LD: I hear you&#8217;re moving into the old Univision buildings in Goleta?<\/p>\n<p>HF: Yes, it&#8217;s very exciting. I mean I love to be downtown but the Univision building in<br \/>\nthe long run and even in the short run saves us money and it&#8217;s a bigger facility for less<br \/>\nmoney. And it&#8217;s a better studio. &#8230; We can have an audience of 49 people and so one of<br \/>\nthe ideas I have is &#8230; we want to market this to nonprofits and say if you&#8217;ve got an event<br \/>\nif you want to have a town hall or a forum, why don&#8217;t you do it at our place because you<br \/>\ncan put it on TV live, you can have people calling in and interacting.<\/p>\n<p>&#8230; Also the other part is that I think our major mission is to facilitate and make it easier<br \/>\nfor people to get their content out. So we look at that in terms of both the media that we<br \/>\noffer, &#8230;it&#8217;s both the production and the distribution. Because a lot of people just bring us<br \/>\ncontent more and more &#8230; they don&#8217;t have to produce it here to get it on the air. I am<br \/>\nhappy to have all of that stuff.<\/p>\n<p>LD: Do you have any favorite moments since you&#8217;ve been here?<\/p>\n<p>HF: I could write a novel about this place. (Laughs) It&#8217;s never dull &#8230; My favorite<br \/>\nmoment was we were producing something in the smaller studio for the film festival with<br \/>\nthe film festival people and the police were getting ready to do a program in the other<br \/>\nstudio and they brought some drug dogs, drug sniffing dogs in who went nuts. I saw all of<br \/>\nthese people looking around kind of nervously and what it was was they had also brought<br \/>\nin some marijuana to hide behind the couch to show the dogs off, but I think a lot of<br \/>\npeople were starting to get nervous.<\/p>\n<p>&#8230; But really one of my favorite things is just knowing that people watch. When<br \/>\nsomebody comes up to me and says, &#8220;thank you so much for showing the youth<br \/>\nsymphony. It was so wonderful for all those kids to see their hard work on television.&#8221;<br \/>\nThat appreciation that goes a long way.<\/p>\n<p>LD: That&#8217;s great. With print media struggling, do you see an expanded or different role<br \/>\nfor television?<\/p>\n<p>HF: That&#8217;s a good question. I think the print media people who are sending the reporters<br \/>\nout with cameras, like the Ventura County Star or something, I think they get it. I don&#8217;t<br \/>\nthink we compete with print media. I think the more information people have the better.<br \/>\n&#8230; I think there&#8217;s going to be some convergence. But I think what we need is more good<br \/>\nreporting and so I think the people who do print media, it&#8217;s really different than bloggers.<br \/>\nBloggers can just repeat rumors. With journalists you get both sides of the story and I<br \/>\nthink we&#8217;re losing some of that. That&#8217;s what I worry about the Internet, you can have an<br \/>\nopinion and people treat it as fact. &#8230; I would hate to see print journalism gone, but I<br \/>\nhope that what we need is good reporting. I think unbiased reporting, both sides of the<br \/>\nstory, get the facts straight and let people make up their mind. I think that&#8217;s what&#8217;s most<br \/>\nimportant.<\/p>\n<p>LD: What else do you do when you&#8217;re not working?<\/p>\n<p>HF: I like to spend time with family, watch basketball, exercise, and travel though it&#8217;s<br \/>\ngetting harder to afford. I&#8217;m a huge basketball junkie, especially Duke.<\/p>\n<p>LD: If you could pick three adjectives to describe yourself, what would they be?<\/p>\n<p>HP: Enthusiastic, issue-oriented, and upbeat<\/p>\n<p><strong>Vital Stats: Hap Freund<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Born: July 31, 1943 in St. Louis, Missouri<\/p>\n<p>Family: Wife Claudia Chotzen, sons Zach (age 22 and a senior at Stanford) and Willy<br \/>\n(age 18 and a senior at Laguna Blanca).<\/p>\n<p>Civic Involvement: &#8220;This takes a lot of my time. This is not a 40-hour a week<br \/>\ncommitment, so I would say that my civic involvement really is through work and trying<br \/>\nto get organizations in the door and caring about what they do.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Professional Accomplishments: Executive Director of the Santa Barbara Channels,<br \/>\nformer lawyer and community organizer, award-winning documentary<br \/>\nfilmmaker.<\/p>\n<p>Best Book You&#8217;ve Read Recently: &#8220;Shining City,&#8221; and &#8220;The Story of Edgar Sawtelle.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Little-Known Fact: Freund was once one of the leading experts in the country on lead<br \/>\npaint poisoning in children. 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